As someone who is TERF-adjacent, I'm opposed to males' presence in women's-only spaces as a matter of principle because even the ones who claim to identify as women are still men. Also, anecdotal evidence suggests that some of the so-called trans women who are seeking access to spaces meant for real women aren't sexual predators but histrionic individuals who are bristling with male aggression and are there to act out their AGP identities or otherwise be disruptive. They have no business being there, either.
It's difficult to hold out the specter of male sexual predators as a reason for banning fake women from women's spaces because it triggers the deeply-held American belief that people are innocent until proven guilty. It would be necessary to have good statistics showing a high incidence of that kind of subterfuge to make it a compelling argument. That's why a ban based on the fact that trans women aren't women seems more palatable.
In any case, any non-trans woman who sides with trans women and against real women on this issue is pretty debased. Any trans woman who pushes back is free to do so because free speech but he shouldn't expect to be given a bouquet and a tiara for doing so.
It’s too late when a female figures out who the “predator” is. 🙄
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As someone who is TERF-adjacent, I'm opposed to males' presence in women's-only spaces as a matter of principle because even the ones who claim to identify as women are still men. Also, anecdotal evidence suggests that some of the so-called trans women who are seeking access to spaces meant for real women aren't sexual predators but histrionic individuals who are bristling with male aggression and are there to act out their AGP identities or otherwise be disruptive. They have no business being there, either.
It's difficult to hold out the specter of male sexual predators as a reason for banning fake women from women's spaces because it triggers the deeply-held American belief that people are innocent until proven guilty. It would be necessary to have good statistics showing a high incidence of that kind of subterfuge to make it a compelling argument. That's why a ban based on the fact that trans women aren't women seems more palatable.
In any case, any non-trans woman who sides with trans women and against real women on this issue is pretty debased. Any trans woman who pushes back is free to do so because free speech but he shouldn't expect to be given a bouquet and a tiara for doing so.